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Interview with Steven Spitalny - Class of 1998

What led you to the Consciousness Studies program?

What led me was having been to a number of workshops and lectures over the years with Dennis, and having a year off and just knowing that that would be the very best thing to do with my year off.

How did you get into a community where that was possible to hear Dennis speaking?

From a karmic point of view, I suppose, I was led to it by children, by being connected with the Waldorf school.

And what part of your Consciousness Studies class was most memorable for you?

Three things stuck with me the most. At least. The main exercise really stuck with me. It struck me as something really important. Working with color as an objective way to see into soul situations. And working with flower remedies, and how they work and how to work with them--those three things are pretty major things that have stuck with me and are memorable.

Do you still work with those things?

Yeah, I do flower remedies myself, and I work with other people with flower remedies. I work with the colored gels sometimes with me or with other people--when they ask, I don't have them sign up anywhere. But the more people that find out, people that are just friends, it's like "Oh wow that was so amazing, can you do this for my husband now, can you do this for my friend..." So that's really been great. I've worked into this situation of trading, not knowing something, but saying here, this is an offering, and you can see if it is true for you or not, for amazing kinds of other healing experiences that I have been able to just work with people in that way.

The Alchemical Tree

How has your experience in Consciousness Studies affected your work in the world?

It's turned me into a willing bad guy. I guess I feel more responsible for listening and speaking the hard things of a certain kind of morality... in the context of today, to listening to the imaginations of the hierarchies, but not just listening--doing something about it. It's not always well received, but it's not coming from arrogance but from the point of view of this is something that hasn't been spoken and has to be spoken. Or just if it is a picture that I have that nobody else has spoken, it has to be brought, and that's a responsibility I think I have. And a responsibility to work on myself. I guess I always had that but it just became--there are a lot more reasons now why that's a responsibility--because it's for everyone else too.

How has your experience in Consciousness Studies affected your inner life?

Well since being in the midpoint of Consciousness Studies I have done the main exercise at least once a day if not more, and that is something I never had taken up before. Just some specific things that are offered in the program, like working with the color and the magenta and green spheres--it's a magical instantaneous emotional rescue remedy, and I've worked with that and I guess I've become more conscious or more able to see other people's dysfunction and not say that they are bad because of that dysfunction, but just see it and be able to say that that is their dysfunction and I can't cope with that in my life, or that is their dysfunction and I see it and I can work with them because I can see that. Really just a way to be that is not judgmental but still able to see how somebody else's patterns of behaviour which are more visible--how can I integrate that into my experience in life? So outer and inner, it's been a profound and almost daily effect. Being able to be in a situation and connect with my own witness going "hmmm, your button is being pressed right now, look at that you are not responding the way your button is supposed to respond--isn't that cool." It just does it like a pure curiosity interest thing, and maybe that's not from Consciousness Studies but Consciousness Studies sure helped. I already was on this path that maybe you could call anthroposophy, but Consciousness Studies has been like a training in how to train myself more in the path of anthroposophy.

If you were to give a brief description of Consciousness Studies, what would you say?

Consciousness Studies is a path of self-development so that we can all become prophets of love and change the world.


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